The Politics Thread

[Gi Me Beer]

Well three months into this lot of idiots, and I'm not at all surprised to say, nothing has changed, they (the Conservatives) have learnt absolutely nothing from their disastrous term of office in the very late 70's/80's.

[Steve]

cool story bro

[Ekona]

Bloody hell, give them a chance! They've got 13 years of shit to sift through first.

[vaughany]

meh.

Only notice things are different when they make jokes about Cameron and Clegg instead of Brown on tv. Life goes on.

[Chuck Steak]

I don't think things have gotten worse. That's something.

[Savara]

I really think any Labour MP who was an MP in the last Parliament doesn't have any right to have a go at the new government yet. At all. For at least a year.

[DJ]

Still too early, but already there's some policies that on the face of it don't seem very good at all.
Scrapping hospital waiting time targets for instance, ending the right of patients to see a family doctor within 48 hours and axing the 18-week target covering the period from hospital referral to start of treatment. Also the 4 hour target in A&E waiting rooms.
So for example, I knew roughly when my final operation was going to be thanks to the targets. But without the target I could have been held in limbo for years at a time.
They've scrapped the Food Standards Agency too, although since the EU regulates our food these days that's probably not so big a loss.

What I don't get is that we've had over 100 years of modern democracy in an industrialised world. Why is that we've still not hit the magic balance of most things and still have a new government come in and change it to how they want it? We've had plenty of governments running the NHS for instance. There must have been a time where everyone looked at it and said "You know what, this actually works really well" and then just stick at it.
And if not, then at some point in the future we must surely hit a utopian form of governance as every idea that can be tried has been done, so we just pick the best way of running something.

[Mr.Clark]

If a new government comes in and doesn't change things, they're admitting that the previous government were actually running things right. So why change a government that was running things right? It's not a way to get re-elected.

"Vote for us, we won't change anything"

"Well if you won't change anything, why bother switching from the guys that are in now?"

"Um..."

[Ekona]

Trouble is, nothing stays the same. Population increases, money coming in goes up and down depending on the economy, wars need paying for and so on.

[RB]

Governments don't change anything, society does. No matter what laws and initiatives governments bring in, people on mass will ultimately do what they want and then governments will react. Governments are something to be tolerated or ignored in order to live your life.

[DJ]

They've slashed the road safety budget by 40%, which specifically ends central funding for fixed speed cameras.
Councils up and down the land are turning their cameras off.

Time to rejoice if you ask me! Fingers crossed what happened in Swindon is reflected up and down the country, in so much as the cameras turned off and the accident rate stayed the same.
What I hope doesn't happen is that every moron who's been kept at bay suddenly sees the roads as a racetrack.

[Mr.Clark]

Good. It's not the racetrack that gets me, it's the spurious 50 limited dual carriageways with cameras on corners.

That's not safety, that's making money.

[RB]

It should improve safety, more looking at the road instead of the speedo. I welcome it, especially on the route to work as I'll be able to sleep later

[keasy]

Fuck them.

Tory dimwitted inbred fucks.

Anything to help their peers and rich bedfellows.


Allowing GP's to run trust budgets ? How long until GP's are groupoing together under the one company banner ?

GP - ' Yes Mr. Smioth you have cancer of the entire body and will die within one week unless you visit a specialist'

Mr Smioth - ' Really doctor ? OMG am I going to die if I do not visit this specialist ? '

GP - 'Yes I'm afraid you are'

Mr Smioth - ' Okay doc book me in'

GP - ' Certainly Mr Smioth, please before we proceed, sign this piece of legalese deliberately confusing agreement'

Mr Smioth - ' what is this agreement Doc ? I'm a bit poorly and have left my reading specs at home'

GP- ' Bwuhawhawhahw, sorry Mr Smioth that wasn't an evil laugh, my mate from the pub just sent me a diorty text. Very unprofessional I know but not to worry. where were we ? Oh yes, nothing to worry about Mr Smioth the agreement is simply to agree that Doctors Corp (reg tm) will reserve the right to pass opinion and also treatment to other involved parties'

Mr Smioth - ' But doc the only other involved parties I see are registered under the name Doctors Corp as well. What's that about ?'

'GP - ' Nothing Mr Smioth, it's just some old pals from Eton that I know, yes we just happen to have some shared business interest, hahahaha, but that;s nothing to do with the fact the clinic just two streets away could have diagnosed a preventative action that would give you at least two years. Hahahaha, what a scam eh Mr Smioth ? But not to worry, you'll be dead in eight days time so who gives a toss eh ? what what ? Next customer, erm patient please Valerie. Before they enter my surgery, what's their home address ? Are we looking at potential Doctors Corp customers or Private Care For You (because you are rich) potential sales ?....................

[Dan]

Fuck them.

Tory dimwitted inbred fucks.

Anything to help their peers and rich bedfellows.


Allowing GP's to run trust budgets ? How long until GP's are groupoing together under the one company banner ?

GP - ' Yes Mr. Smioth you have cancer of the entire body and will die within one week unless you visit a specialist'

Mr Smioth - ' Really doctor ? OMG am I going to die if I do not visit this specialist ? '

GP - 'Yes I'm afraid you are'

Mr Smioth - ' Okay doc book me in'

GP - ' Certainly Mr Smioth, please before we proceed, sign this piece of legalese deliberately confusing agreement'

Mr Smioth - ' what is this agreement Doc ? I'm a bit poorly and have left my reading specs at home'

GP- ' Bwuhawhawhahw, sorry Mr Smioth that wasn't an evil laugh, my mate from the pub just sent me a diorty text. Very unprofessional I know but not to worry. where were we ? Oh yes, nothing to worry about Mr Smioth the agreement is simply to agree that Doctors Corp (reg tm) will reserve the right to pass opinion and also treatment to other involved parties'

Mr Smioth - ' But doc the only other involved parties I see are registered under the name Doctors Corp as well. What's that about ?'

'GP - ' Nothing Mr Smioth, it's just some old pals from Eton that I know, yes we just happen to have some shared business interest, hahahaha, but that;s nothing to do with the fact the clinic just two streets away could have diagnosed a preventative action that would give you at least two years. Hahahaha, what a scam eh Mr Smioth ? But not to worry, you'll be dead in eight days time so who gives a toss eh ? what what ? Next customer, erm patient please Valerie. Before they enter my surgery, what's their home address ? Are we looking at potential Doctors Corp customers or Private Care For You (because you are rich) potential sales ?....................

I'm not even sure what you're trying to say.