Yeah, that sounds like the Scots we all know and love...Ekona wrote:1. No IndyRef2 as May won't let her, and the Scots need to realise it was a national vote, not a local one.
I'll hold you to that...Ekona wrote:2. Brexit meant out. Out of everything. We won't get fucked though, May would probably quite like another term at the top table and delivering a crappy result won't help anyone. It won't help the EU to punish us for leaving either. It'll all be fine, just wait and see. The people had their chance to vote once, and this is why referendums are a really silly idea. I voted Remain, remember.
Ekona wrote:We need to leave, and leave promptly. Desperately hanging on and hoping for the best isn't going to help anyone: People need to know what kind of situation we're going to be left with so they can plan for it. Hesitation and faffing helps no-one. I'd rather a slightly worse exit deal in 2 years than I would a slightly better one in 5 years.
Joe wrote:Johnson, Farage, Gove et al would have known they'd have a tough time trying to convince voters the UK would be able to find a better deal than that outside of the EU, so they didn't even bother. Instead the Leave campaign went full Britannia and painted a rosy backwards-looking dreamview of post-EU Britain that evaporated immediately following the referendum.
Dominic Cummings, Vote Leave Director wrote:Pundits and MPs kept saying ‘why isn’t Leave arguing about the economy and living standards’. They did not realise that for millions of people, £350m/NHS was about the economy and living standards – that’s why it was so effective. It was clearly the most effective argument not only with the crucial swing fifth but with almost every demographic. Even with UKIP voters it was level-pegging with immigration. Would we have won without immigration? No. Would we have won without £350m/NHS? All our research and the close result strongly suggests No. Would we have won by spending our time talking about trade and the Single Market? No way.
Some people now claim this was cynical and we never intended to spend more on the NHS. Wrong. Boris and Gove were agreed and determined to do exactly this. On the morning of 24 June they both came into HQ. In the tiny ‘operations room’ amid beer cans, champagne bottles, and general bedlam I said to Boris – on day one of being PM you should immediately announce the extra £100 million per week for the NHS [the specific pledge we’d made] is starting today and more will be coming – you should start off by being unusual, a political who actually delivers what they promise. ‘Absolutely. ABSOLUTELY. We MUST do this, no question, we’ll park our tanks EVERYWHERE’ he said. Gove strongly agreed
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