Joe wrote:Still find it astonishing that the Article 50 Bill is passing to the House of Lords with no amendments at all.
MPs voted against finding out how much Brexit will actually cost, against protecting the Good Friday agreement, against voting on a final deal, against assuring Scotland and the Union, against exempting EU nationals and against protecting workers' rights.
No opposition whatsoever. The hardest Brexit imaginable.
And now it's being reported that threats are being made to abolish the House of Lords if they try to block the bill or make any changes, because "patriotism" and "democracy". Utterly reckless.
RB wrote:I'm not saying it's going to be easy. I imagine there will be a few things that just fall into place and work well but the vast majority of it will be a hard slog.
But that's good because nothing worthwhile is easy.
The EU is an outdated idea for a world that no longer exists.
If we stay in then we'd still face many of the problems we are now going to because the EU needs to change the way it deals with the wider world or it will fail as it is currently beginning to.
There are so many EU members that are close to collapse that they cannot continue bailing them out and claiming everything is fine. There has to be massive change or failure is inevitable.
I feel it will be easier for us as a single strong union to move out of the 50s and join the rest of the world than if we were dragged along in a crowd of bickering euro-nations, at a point in the future when it will be too late to do it on anything but emergency terms.
RB wrote:You just can't win. Remainers wanted a general election so they could try and derail brexit. Now they have one, they're whining because there's no opposition.
I actually have a bit more respect for her now. She can clearly see that Jeremy Corbyn is a worthless weakling, leading a shower of shit and has taken the correct action of putting the fucking boot in like a strong leader should.
What will be more interesting is seeing how Scotland votes. I'd love to see Jimmy Krankie shit the bed.
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