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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Blak » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:08 pm

Had a quick nose at a mate's Retina MBP last night and unsurprisingly it is lush. Couldn't see the pixels, though I did have a few pints in me at the time.


Following on from Tinlad's "Windows in a VM" point, I've been using ievms for my testing-in-IE needs and it is a thoroughly painless thing. Lots easier than fannying about with multiple versions on windows.

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby RB » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:15 pm

If you do go PC and it has Windows 8, fear not as you have downgrade rights according to life hacker
http://lifehacker.com/5974318/downgrade ... 7-for-free

Also 15" Zenbook prime
http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/05/asus ... vz-review/
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby nomis » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:56 pm

Thanks RB, I'll be keeping an eye on that Zenbook prime.

I believe the downgrade rights are for Windows 8 Pro only. If I had to fork out for a copy of windows 7, it wouldn't be the end of the world. Its just 1. secure boot takes the piss and 2. the principal of it - I'm so annoyed by Windows 8 that I don't want to add to the sales figures by buying a windows 8 laptop if I can help it.

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby RobD » Fri Jan 11, 2013 9:36 am

I don't mean to stir the pot here so please ignore me if you like but I've been using windows 8 since its release and once you stick a start bar on I really don't notice much of a difference, in fact if anything it seems a little quicker than windows 7.
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby nomis » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:48 am

I have a windows 8 machine. I've tried it. I shouldn't have to put the start button back in. Windows 8 is a massive usability fail, and worst of all, it's all caused by MS trying to solve a problem it has, rather than solving it's customer's problems.

I agree that, without metro, Windows 8 would actually be a pretty decent incremental update from Windows 7. Unfortunately, they've decided the only way they're going to get people to buy their mobile devices is if they make the desktop look the same and hope that people will buy what looks familiar.

All anyone seems to says about Windows 8 is "it's not too bad once you install some 3rd party stuff to fix it"...

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby RobD » Fri Jan 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Definitely a fair point about the start bar! It should be an option rather than everything the os is about!
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby RB » Fri Jan 11, 2013 1:14 pm

I like windows 8 without any tweaks but I did buy a multi touch track pad for my desktop and my Zenbook Prime has a multi touch pad anyway.
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Mr.Clark » Fri Jan 11, 2013 8:16 pm

nomis wrote:All anyone seems to says about Windows 8 is "it's not too bad once you install some 3rd party stuff to fix it"...
True. I imagine there may be some benefit to it if
a) You have Windows 8 on your desktop and can survive "not-Metro-any-more" with a keyboard and mouse (or get an expensive but nifty touchpad like RB did)
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b) You have a Windows 8 tablet PC, where the interface may actually work, and your settings auto-sync with said desktop.

I like it, but then, I spent $5 to get the Start button back and run everything in Desktop mode. It is quicker than Windows 7, and that plus the copy interface balances out the lack of Aero shiny-ness.

I like the logon/lock screen too, and although I haven't done it yet, the ability to restore my settings from MS when I next format and reinstall might save me enough in time that I overlook the cost of Start8.

And I did only pay £25 for it, which is a bargain in my book...

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby nomis » Sun Feb 17, 2013 1:20 am

Tinlad wrote:So my vote would be to wait for the next rMBP refresh when most of the wrinkles should be ironed out. Skipping the first generation of any of Apple's product lines is generally recommended.


So they just did a minor bump/refresh with slightly newer cpus...

Do you think I should go for it now? I'm guessing this makes a more substantial update later this year less likely?

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby RB » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:31 am

What would they add if they did refresh it later this year? Technology had plateaued, updates these days are very incremental. If you want it now, buy it now.
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby nomis » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:10 pm

Intel's new Haswell CPUs are due in the summer, and the rumours were for a Q3 refresh to the macbooks with these new cpus.

So I'm trying to gauge if the refresh they just did, with a slight bump up on CPUs, is an indication that the haswell update is not happening as soon as they hoped.

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Ekona » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:13 pm

Could be, but then look how quickly they did the iPad 3 to 4 update: I've given up trying to guess Apple's strategy of late. It's been a bit up the wall since Steve Jobs died.
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Tinlad » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:21 pm

There have previously been CPU bumps in Q1 followed by a more thorough refresh in Q3, so I don't think this indicates any delay on Haswell.

As RB said, if the current spec works for you, go for it now.

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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Helios » Thu Jun 13, 2013 7:19 am

I'm also looking for a laptop.
I have a bursary at my uni that I have to spend at their store.
Which would you buy?
Samsung: http://www.jsdigitalstore.co.uk/Online/ ... aptop.aspx
Toshiba: http://www.jsdigitalstore.co.uk/Online/ ... aptop.aspx

I need clarification. Is the Samsung processor better than the Toshiba one?
If not then I will buy the Toshiba since it has more RAM.
If yes then buy the Samsung.
What do you guys think?
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Re: Looking for a laptop...

Postby Ekona » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:00 am

I'd get the Samsung purely because it's got Win7, not Win8.

Samsung CPU is much better, but you do get less RAM and less storage too.
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